Teslyn Sable
Shadowfire Enterprises
Rura-Penthe
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:56:00 -
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Mal Nina wrote:I own a rorqual and the only reason I had it was to compress the ore that was mined in the WH.
Then came change 1... Seems me ore sites no longer were hidden. Seems someone thought it was too much work to actually get skilled at scanning and to learn to scan. You could mine in a WH and hit Dscan when the probes showed up you ran. At least the null guys have local. Now in WHs there are no warning probes and no warning local. Consequence: Mining in WHs is basically suicide unless you have no WHs open into you. Guess what, mining basically stopped in our WH... well except that new guy that just lost his hulk due to the above.
Now this change... I love the new interface, don't get me wrong. I love the compression changes except for all that training I did so I could compress every ore out there. But... do I need a rorqual? Absolutely not! I have a 1.5 billion dollar paperweight sitting in my POS. If I ever mine again in my home I am setting up my refinery. after all I only compressed the ore so I could haul the ore out and refine it in a HS station that did far better than my refinery at the POS.
Seems with the new compression module to add to your POS the only use the rorqual had is gone. So CCP while you are giving me my money back for all those BPOs how about reimbursing me for the rorqual as well?
This.
Our wormhole corps got their start by doing heavy asteroid mining in lower-end wormholes. It made us a lot of ISK to bootstrap us into bigger and better things. We don't do it as much as we used to, but we still do some mining.
Several of our pilots spent months of time training up to fly rorquals and compress ore in order to help with our mining operations, and now that all of that time has basically been invalidated. The mining boosts from the rorqual are only worth the fuel cost if you have a large mining fleet going so you can compress at the same time. For smaller mining fleets, a skilled booster with the (now much less expensive) mining foreman implant sitting in an Orca can boost just as effectively as a rorqual can, without burning fuel. With the previous change to ore sites, if we have the numbers to securely run a large mining operation, it's easier and more profitable for us just to go raid a nearby class 4 and do the sleeper sites and gas sites with combat ships and ventures instead. Now we won't even need the rorqual for compression, since we can just online an array at the POS and accomplish the same thing - with no skills needed.
What's going to be done to compensate people who skilled into rorquals and ore compression?
For that matter, what's going to be done to make the rorqual worth having again? It's an impressive ship, and it seems wrong to make it completely obsolete in this way. Something needs to be done to make the rorqual worth using.
If you want to give Rorquals a new role that gets them out of the POS, that's fine. But they need to be buffed considerably to make it worth the risk, since they can't defend themselves at all. A Rorqual in open space is a gigantic target, whether you're in a wormhole, lowsec, or nullsec. In their current state, we would never deploy one outside of a POS at all. Even if there was a reason to, we wouldn't do it without a support fleet to keep them alive and give them a chance to escape if we get jumped - they're just too expensive to risk without a fleet backing them.
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